Sunday, April 05, 2009

Madhesh Think Tank: Ek Terai, Jhijhiya, Open Border

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http://groups.google.com/group/madhesh-think-tank (private)

Ek Terai, Ek Rajya

Apr 4, 1:57 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:57:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 4 2009 1:57 pm
Subject: Ek Terai, Ek Rajya

I propose this as our new slogan. Not Ek Madhesh, Ek Pradesh. Let's
retire that slogan.

Jhijhiya In Norway

Apr 4, 1:37 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:37:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 4 2009 1:37 pm
Subject: Jhijhiya Dance In Norway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erua8awzRIU

Thank you Hari Kishor Shah (Gonarpura, Mahottari) and friends.

Apr 4, 1:44 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 4 2009 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: Jhijhiya Dance In Norway

Hari. I recommend you launch an Association of Madhesis in Europe
(AME), Norway Chapter.

Apr 4, 1:49 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 4 2009 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Jhijhiya Dance In Norway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8uoFJRyGss
Hari's two daughers. Madhesi pride in Norway.

Open Border Is The Madhesi Lifestyle

Apr 3, 11:54 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:54:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 3 2009 11:54 pm
Subject: Open Border Is The Madhesi Lifestyle

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2009/apr/apr04/news02.php
'Passport system at Nepal-India border essential to protect national
interest' ...... Committee chairman and leader of the Unified CPN
(Maoist) Amik Sherchan

http://www.telegraphnepal.com/news_det.php?news_id=5148
Nepal’s CA committee favors passport regime with India ....... “Public
opinion is also that Nepal’s border with China and India should be
properly fenced”.

How can these Pahadi politicians act so obliviuos of what the open
border means to the Madhesis? The open border is the lifestyle down
South. A passport can not even be imagined. These people have not even
issues citizenship papers to all Madhesis, how long will it take them
to issue passports? Can you imagine?

This foolhardy attempt has to be opposed.

While Europe has worked to get rid of the passport among many
countries, Amik Sherchan wants to go the other way! The next thing you
know they will say the Cold War never ended, and it was high time for
one party communist rule.

These guys belong to some bygone era.

China and India are not the same to Nepal. India is much closer.

Taking This Think Tank To The Next Level

Apr 3, 4:12 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:12:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 3 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: Taking This Think Tank To The Next Level

For now my two ideas of (1) making the archives of this think tank
public, and (b) electing a Board for this think tank are out the
window. I chose to respect the majority opinion here against my two
ideas with enthusiasm.

But as a result now we have two online forums we did not have before:
http://groups.google.com/group/madhesi (the largest online gathering
of Madhesis)
http://groups.google.com/group/nepal1 (the Nepali elite of the
democracy movement)

And of course the largest Nepali mailing list in the world by yours
truly.
http://groups.google.com/group/DFN-Blog

I had to publicly write to Google on Twitter to get it back.
Prejudiced Pahadis had flagged it and reported as abuse.

All this only adds to the fact that we need to constantly be thinking
in terms of taking this think tank to the next level. Okay, so we will
keep the archives private, and we will stay libertarian as a group in
terms of how we operate. But how can we improve?

Here are some of my ideas.

(1) Keep growing organically. Keep talking. These two fundamentals
have to be maintained.
(2) But we have to draw in more quality people, especially from Nepal,
and we have to improve the quality of our conversations. We need a
particularly vibrant ongoing year long debate on the next
constitution. We have to constantly discuss strategies to make Ek
Terai, Ek Pradesh possible.
(3) Since all the top Madhesi diaspora leaders are here, we can also
use this think tank to brainstorm on ways to enhance the
organizational vibrancy of all the Madhesi diaspora organizations. And
we have to bring in not just the top leaders but all the executive
committee members of all the diaspora Madhesi organizations. Do we
have people here from China?
(4) Everybody who is a central committee member with any Madhesi
political party in Nepal with an email address should be brought in
here. When they don't respond to the invitation over email, someone
please pick up the phone and call them, and then resend the email
invite.
(5) Let's get all the top Madhesi names in media and the NGO sector.
(6) If the existing 82 members were to help the cause of organic
growth, we are in good shape. Because we have as members people who
personally know everyone we need to draw in.

We have a managed to create a great online community here. I am glad.

And, yes, I think all existing members should take a minute to fill
out their profiles here at this group. We should help each other know
each other as well as possible. Upload a photo, write a few lines
about yourself. I think the messages by people become more powerful
and more interesting when you know them better as individuals. I feel
privileged that I have personally met in person almost all the active
members at this forum.

Apr 2, 10:16 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:16:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 2 2009 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Utilization of the departments we head

एक तो हम लोग मधेसी नेताको भोट नही देते थे। अभी थोडा बहुत देने लगे हैं।
लेकिन अभी भी तराईसे मधेसी पार्टीसे अागे पहाडी पार्टीया ही है। तीनो
मधेसी पार्टी मिलाके होना चाहिए कमसेकम २०० सीट लेकिन मुश्किलसे ९० सीट
है। याने के तराईमें अभी भी अाधासे कम सीट मधेसी पार्टीयोके पास है,
ज्यादा पहाडी पार्टीयोके पास है। लेकिन तराईके लिए जो होना चाहिए वो नही
हो रहा है कह के हम लोग मधेसी नेताअो पर ज्यादा गरम होते हैं।

लोकतन्त्रमें होता है, जिसको भोट दे के जिताअो उस पर प्रेसर बनाए रखो कि
काम हो रहा है कि नहीं। मैं उसके पक्षमें हुं। लेकिन हम लोग ये भी माने
कि मधेसी नेताअोका सत्तामें जाना मधेसी अान्दोलनका लक्ष्य है। अभी तो
िसर्फ विदेश मन्त्री मिला है, मै तो चाहुंगा कल किसी मधेसी को
प्रधानमन्त्री पद मिले।

इसिलिए हम लोग सोचसमझके मधेसी नेताअोका अालोचना करें।

Apr 3, 3:47 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:47:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 3 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: Utilization of the departments we head

Subhashji.

I don't think we should blindly support the Madhesi leaders and
parties. We should be critical, and guiding, but we should also praise
when praise is due. And I think the scope of this online think tank is
hugely limited. I doubt there are many (or any) leaders in Nepal who
take the discussions at this think tank as their primary (or even
peripheral) guiding light. The forces they primarily respond to are
immediate and in their face right there in Nepal, the media, the
masses, the corridors of power. I think the primary beneficiaries of
this think tank are its participants, people like you and me, people
who are far from home but who do need to keep their Madhesi identities
alive and rejuvenated. And so we gush and talk and froth. But keep
talking we should in hopes we might get listened to once in a while.
And keeping the Madhesi diaspora leaders connected is no small
achievement.

Paramendra
http://demrepubnepal.blogspot.com

Apr 3, 3:40 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 3 2009 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Rama-navami "The appearance day of Lord Ramacandra." to you all.

Jay Mandal, my friend, I have missed you at this forum.

Apr 3, 3:55 pm
From: paramendra
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:55:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 3 2009 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Rama-navami "The appearance day of Lord Ramacandra." to you all.

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2009/apr/apr03/news07.php

Chaite Dashain, Ram Nawami being celebrated

"The festival is celebrated with much pomp and fanfare at Janaki
temple in Janakpur city in southern Nepal."

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